Now, since you still post the most idiotic, senseless posts I've ever seen, I
shall post questions here. Just to bother you, for starters.
But to make you modify your ill-suited thinking, that is my objective. I see the
beginnings of a Christian theologian and apologist in you, but your
fundamentalist leanings are keeping you from knowing other truths.
From that, I begin:
1. You do know that there are many religious denominations in the world, right?
All of these religions contest that their God is real due to so-and-so, that
others were shams due to so-and-so.
Tell me, then, supposing that each of these religions has a corresponding hell,
and the penalty of believing in the wrong religion is a send-off to the true
hell, how sure are you that you are a member of a religion that is
true?
2. I suppose that the Christian concept of God is one of omnipotence,
omniscience, and benevolence, right? Then, a few queries:
a. Can an omnipotent God create a stone so heavy that he cannot lift
it?
b. The Christian god is defined as a personal being who knows everything.
According to Christians, personal beings have free will.
In order to have free will, you must have more than one option, each of which is
avoidable. This means that before you make a choice, there must be a state of
uncertainty during a period of potential: you cannot know the future. Even if
you think you can predict your decision, if you claim to have free will, you
must admit the potential (if not the desire) to change your mind before the
decision is final.
A being who knows everything can have no "state of uncertainty." It
knows its choices in advance. A being that knows its choices in advance has no
potential to avoid its choices, and therefore lacks free will. Since a being
that lacks free will is not a personal being, a personal being who knows
everything cannot exist. Therefore, the Christian god does not exist.
c. How can evil exist in this world, if there is a benevolent God?
d. How can some organisms have suboptimal features - for example, our appendices
- if God could create organisms that are optimal?
e. Why are there non-believers, if God is benevolent?
After seeing all the arguments you posted on the forums, ignoring the laws of
logic and common sense, following the dictates of your over-loyalty to God
-
I suggest you read some books on atheism.
Maybe you'll get some enlightenment on the flaws of your thought
process.
Not just balther about "God is the source of all kindness, because it is
said in the Bible" crap.
Quote by priincesspoor atheism, they
wouldnt see the Kingdom of God and also eternal life..
merged: 11-13-2007 ~ 12:53am
Quote: "if God created the
world in 6 days and Adam and Eve were created along with all the other
creatures, how come dinosaurs aren't mentioned and why are they said to have
existed billions of years before us?
it was long time before humans, why should God mention it.
Quote: created Religion just so
they could control the people
ahaha, that's not true. what's
the advantage for them? they all work just for God, not for themselves
I'm guessing you're obviously a believer. I don't think you really got what I
meant. I'm not going to argue with you about this since you seem to believe in
it quite strongly, but when I said the ancient civilization Mesopotamia created
religion to better control their people, I said they created RELIGION not GOD,
because they believed in several gods like many ancient civilizations. And they
created Religion to justify their actions. That's all I meant. If you wish to
ignore this fact then be my guest, I don't have a problem with it. On a further
note just so you know The Kingdom of Heaven doesn't really mean anything to us
Atheists, so we don't exactly care if we reach it or not.
merged: 11-23-2007 ~ 06:50am
okay, if that ancient civilization Mesopotamia created religion to better
control their people, my religion wasnt made by that, but by His plans. i see
that u're n all other atheism cant accept that existance of God, just because u
cant see Him. cant see doesnt mean it's not real, same as FACTS dont give any
probabilities. n if u still cant accept God, u'll not save, n u'll know someday,
how regret u're. if u cant accept God as ur Creator, then He cant accept u as
His child. well, God has plans for that.. X)
You are obviously still not getting what I'm saying, so forget it. It does not
seem like you will listen anyways so I can tell that this conversation is
useless. I'm not trying to convert you to become an atheist or anything, since I
also realise that would be a waste of time. I just stated my beliefs. So I'd
greatly appreciate it if you'd stop trying to convert me to Christianity. I
respect your choice to believe in whatever you want, so the same in return
should not be so difficult or offensive, since it is part of the MT policy. Also
I'm going to have to ask you to stop writing on my wall if all you are going to
do is spout your beliefs, since quite frankly I don't care.
Quote by priincessreligion is the most
important than anything bcoz wut God alwayz ask us is our faith, believe in GOD.
John 20:29= Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen me, you have
believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have
believed."
John 14:15 "if you love Me, keep My commandments"
Luke 12: 5 "But I will show you whom you should fear: fear Him who, after
He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!"
7"But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Do not fear therefore;
you are of more valuethan many sparrows. 10"And anyone who speaks a word
against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him, but to him who blasphemes
against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven.
John 12:48 "he who rejects Me, and does not recieve My words, has that
which judges him-the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last
day."
John 3:31 "He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is
earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above
all."
Please do not quote voluminous amounts of Scripture without your own input. You
quote numerous passages from the Bible without giving any analysis,
interpretation, or even an explanation why those verses are even relevant to the
discussion. As such, these posts will be considered spam in the future and I
will delete them.
Quote by priincessjuZt drop by to say
Hii
nee, laurent-san
may i add u?
Hiya, priincess-chan ^^
Sure, of course you can add me. When you do so, I'll add ya back.
merged: 08-25-2007 ~ 09:26pm
Hey, I just noticed ! I kinda look like that Korean guy, Lee Jun Ki, except for
me having longer, brown hair, and western eyes
merged: 08-28-2007 ~ 04:09pm
Quote by priincess
aaw, really o. 0
i'll be ur fan, then ! lol
added ya, laurent -wut's ur real name?
^.^
Yeah. Haven't you seen my pic on my userpage yet ? It's a bit dark, but you
still should be able to see the lenght of my hair ^^
I'll add ya back as soon as this post ... gets posted
Ow and Laurent IS my real name. When I joined MT, I couldn't get the nick I
wanted, so lacking inspiration at that moment, I just typed in my first name
What's yours ?
merged: 08-29-2007 ~ 04:44am
Quote by priincess
yep, i juzt saw it
thats a cool pict
n cool hair style too ^^
r u a model ?
watashi wa sherry desu. yoroshiku ne~
hahaha. No I'm not a model. I'm just a lot busy with my looks (hair, tan, body,
clothes). But thanx for that question. Made me blush ^^ And I'm glad to hear you
like my hair style. I'd love to let it grow even longer, so I can put it in one
of those samurai style pony tails and have longer bangs. But I'm not sure if my
boss at work would really appreciate that much
Quote by priincessuhh wutever..
actually i dunno wut r u guys talkin bou
If your going to post in any thread, especially the more serious ones in
religion and science, the least you could do it know what's going on. Short,
detached and pointless posts are no more than spam and seeing as you've been
cautioned you will now receive your first
official warning for spam. Please be more mindful in the future.
I am very sorry that I did not wish you a Happy Birthday ........Happy Birthday! How old are you now!? I hope you hada great B-Day, and
opnce again sorry for not wishing you one.
just passing by...hi
wait a minute.....was it your birthday some days before?
so sorry i didn't wish you.....
it's too late...but a very Happy Bulleted Birthday to you
so sorry *curses myself*
btw. how are you?
hiya priincess
thanks im glad you like them
glad you think so
thank you for the sweet comments on my walls Waiting One More Day and Forgotten Walk and i also want to say thanks for faving my wall Forgotten Walk
i really appreciate it and im glad you like my wall
wishing you a merry christmas and all the best for the new year
heres a small gift
hope you get heaps of pressies
-gives some cookies and candy canes-
i hope you have an enjoyable day and take care -waves- ^^
merged: 12-25-2007 ~ 07:54pm
thankies -blushes-
thank you for the lovely card -huggles-
take care -waves- ^^
Merry Christmas! hope you have fun
Hope you enjoyed my last post here, Sherry.
Now, since you still post the most idiotic, senseless posts I've ever seen, I shall post questions here. Just to bother you, for starters.
But to make you modify your ill-suited thinking, that is my objective. I see the beginnings of a Christian theologian and apologist in you, but your fundamentalist leanings are keeping you from knowing other truths.
From that, I begin:
1. You do know that there are many religious denominations in the world, right? All of these religions contest that their God is real due to so-and-so, that others were shams due to so-and-so.
Tell me, then, supposing that each of these religions has a corresponding hell, and the penalty of believing in the wrong religion is a send-off to the true hell, how sure are you that you are a member of a religion that is true?
2. I suppose that the Christian concept of God is one of omnipotence, omniscience, and benevolence, right? Then, a few queries:
a. Can an omnipotent God create a stone so heavy that he cannot lift it?
b. The Christian god is defined as a personal being who knows everything. According to Christians, personal beings have free will.
In order to have free will, you must have more than one option, each of which is avoidable. This means that before you make a choice, there must be a state of uncertainty during a period of potential: you cannot know the future. Even if you think you can predict your decision, if you claim to have free will, you must admit the potential (if not the desire) to change your mind before the decision is final.
A being who knows everything can have no "state of uncertainty." It knows its choices in advance. A being that knows its choices in advance has no potential to avoid its choices, and therefore lacks free will. Since a being that lacks free will is not a personal being, a personal being who knows everything cannot exist. Therefore, the Christian god does not exist.
c. How can evil exist in this world, if there is a benevolent God?
d. How can some organisms have suboptimal features - for example, our appendices - if God could create organisms that are optimal?
e. Why are there non-believers, if God is benevolent?
Please answer as soon as possible.
Thank you.
hiya priincess
thats okay
i should be the one apologizing this time
lol
sorry for the late reply
thank you for the nice gift -huggles-
thanks
im glad you like it
take care -waves- ^^
To priincess:
After seeing all the arguments you posted on the forums, ignoring the laws of logic and common sense, following the dictates of your over-loyalty to God -
I suggest you read some books on atheism.
Maybe you'll get some enlightenment on the flaws of your thought process.
Not just balther about "God is the source of all kindness, because it is said in the Bible" crap.
hi how are you?
I'm guessing you're obviously a believer. I don't think you really got what I meant. I'm not going to argue with you about this since you seem to believe in it quite strongly, but when I said the ancient civilization Mesopotamia created religion to better control their people, I said they created RELIGION not GOD, because they believed in several gods like many ancient civilizations. And they created Religion to justify their actions. That's all I meant. If you wish to ignore this fact then be my guest, I don't have a problem with it. On a further note just so you know The Kingdom of Heaven doesn't really mean anything to us Atheists, so we don't exactly care if we reach it or not.
merged: 11-23-2007 ~ 06:50am
okay, if that ancient civilization Mesopotamia created religion to better control their people, my religion wasnt made by that, but by His plans. i see that u're n all other atheism cant accept that existance of God, just because u cant see Him. cant see doesnt mean it's not real, same as FACTS dont give any probabilities. n if u still cant accept God, u'll not save, n u'll know someday, how regret u're. if u cant accept God as ur Creator, then He cant accept u as His child. well, God has plans for that.. X)
You are obviously still not getting what I'm saying, so forget it. It does not seem like you will listen anyways so I can tell that this conversation is useless. I'm not trying to convert you to become an atheist or anything, since I also realise that would be a waste of time. I just stated my beliefs. So I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd stop trying to convert me to Christianity. I respect your choice to believe in whatever you want, so the same in return should not be so difficult or offensive, since it is part of the MT policy. Also I'm going to have to ask you to stop writing on my wall if all you are going to do is spout your beliefs, since quite frankly I don't care.
Please do not quote voluminous amounts of Scripture without your own input. You quote numerous passages from the Bible without giving any analysis, interpretation, or even an explanation why those verses are even relevant to the discussion. As such, these posts will be considered spam in the future and I will delete them.
hiya priincess
happy late halloween
im a bit late
lol
take care -waves- ^^
Thanks
I added u as well, haha 
Cyas!
HI!
Well since you dropped by at my userpage I thought lets return the favor ne~
Hope your doing alright and enjoy your day ^.^
~nipah!
ARRGGHHH!
Hey hey. Never spoke to you in a long while. How are things in your place?
merged: 09-14-2007 ~ 03:21am
It was good, I think. What happened to you?
Anyway, I hope you feels betters. Errr....
Thank you very much, I'm glad you like it ^_^
Umm... yes I'm atheist >.> and my avatar is meant to be cute! :P
Hiya, priincess-chan ^^
Sure, of course you can add me. When you do so, I'll add ya back.
merged: 08-25-2007 ~ 09:26pm
Hey, I just noticed ! I kinda look like that Korean guy, Lee Jun Ki, except for me having longer, brown hair, and western eyes
merged: 08-28-2007 ~ 04:09pm
Yeah. Haven't you seen my pic on my userpage yet ? It's a bit dark, but you still should be able to see the lenght of my hair ^^
I'll add ya back as soon as this post ... gets posted

Ow and Laurent IS my real name. When I joined MT, I couldn't get the nick I wanted, so lacking inspiration at that moment, I just typed in my first name
What's yours ?
merged: 08-29-2007 ~ 04:44am
hahaha. No I'm not a model. I'm just a lot busy with my looks (hair, tan, body, clothes). But thanx for that question. Made me blush ^^ And I'm glad to hear you like my hair style. I'd love to let it grow even longer, so I can put it in one of those samurai style pony tails and have longer bangs. But I'm not sure if my boss at work would really appreciate that much
Sherry. That's really a beautiful name !
If your going to post in any thread, especially the more serious ones in religion and science, the least you could do it know what's going on. Short, detached and pointless posts are no more than spam and seeing as you've been cautioned you will now receive your first official warning for spam. Please be more mindful in the future.
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How should you call me? Hmmm.... It up to you
I am very sorry that I did not wish you a Happy Birthday
........Happy Birthday! How old are you now!? I hope you hada great B-Day, and
opnce again sorry for not wishing you one.
just passing by...hi
wait a minute.....was it your birthday some days before?
so sorry i didn't wish you.....
it's too late...but a very Happy Bulleted Birthday to you
so sorry *curses myself*
btw. how are you?
Sure
merged: 08-07-2007 ~ 12:57pm
Now then, may i add you back?