Quote by BobaFett2haDon't feel too bad! I got my lisence about two years after all my friends did, and I still generally drive less than them (I have no problem just being a passenger). As far as overcoming your fears, I can't really add to what's already been said: just practice a lot, and start out with easy stuff like parking lots and residential streets.

Thank you for the advice! I like being a passenger too ^^

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Quote by alexjohnc3The god you believe in, based on your own holy book, is a sadistic freak.

Thank you. Sounds like you're finally beginning to break against this guy. There's no use trying to get through to him, dense as he is. Might as well send him to the Time Cube =P.

I was trying to make a point. He was talking about how we've done horrible things, like eating forbidden apples and not all worshiping God, and because of that we have to suffer eternal damnation. Based on that view, I'd have to say it's God that deserves the punishing, not us.
The part that actually annoyed me was this: "Science is better when proving things on medicine and whatever else isnt related to God."
I usually try to have good faith in people and assume either I'm just ignorant or their just ignorant, but I think he might just be stupid, not ignorant. I don't know that for sure yet though.

Thanks for the faves on both of them. I appreciate it.

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Quote by BobaFett2haIf this is really your first vector...holy crap.

Yep,it is For a whole day of work i'm sort of happy with how it turned out

Hi there, thanks for the fav on my wallpapers, nice to know you like them!

Quote by BobaFett2haWelcome, yothsothgoth! Now that this group is especially active (read: after shinsen89's return), it'll be great to have a unique and appealing layout.

It's because i'm Jezuz crist on eearth i can do anything! No but seriously thanks man for the comment, so hows everything there in cali?

Hello, thanx you so much for adding "Twilight" to ur fav

Have a nice day~

Thanks for adding my Onegai Twins scan - Best Friends Back - to your favs ^_^

"Literate as ever," i wish, i read like maybe three books a year I'm to busy slacking off or debating evangelical Christians who say global warming isn't real.

In Reality I'm a ranking committee member of my cities Tree and Beautification Committee. ( it's the closet thing we have to an environmental board, we don't get any funding, and we don't get paid).

Russian theorists, yea I'd have hard time getting through that too.

Shinsen89

hiiii
soo happy you liked it
many thanks for the fav on my Kaliedo Star wall "Circus Magic"

Hey BobaFett,

Your the first too have recived the message at the MT Athiest forum, again i want to apologize.

So have you gotten bored reading the bible yet? I personally have started to read The Assualt on Reason by Al Gore, i also read Brave New World.

So whats up with you?

Shinsen89

Thank you for the fav on my drawing, glad you liked it!

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Haha, I know exactly what you mean! My major is electrical engineering/physics, which means I'll be going into the more physics-related aspects of EE (semiconductor devices or photonics). However, I'm very interested in all the facets of the field..it's unfortunate that I won't have the time to take classes in the other branches.

Incidentally, earlier today I sat in on a presentation from the DSP focus here at my university. The professor gave an illuminating example of information entropy (though she didn't actually mention the term). If you're interested:

Case 1: It's summer and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.
Case 2: It's autumn and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.
Case 3: It's winter and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.

In which case did I give you the most information?

If it's summer, then you already know tomorrow is going to be warm, so I didn't give you much information there.
If it's winter, then you already know it isn't going to be warm, so I also didn't give you much information there.
If it's autumn, however, the weather is more variable..more random. Thus, here I am giving you more information about the weather than in the other cases.

So I guess this is how randomness is related to the amount of information in a signal. Ah, I only wish I could take some classes in DSP or comm theory. I'm unwilling to give up physics though..

Out of curiosity, what is it you're majoring in?

I like the intelligent design idea of complex specified information. For example:

Case 1: hrdjbvkfzfe

Case 2: fffffffffff

Case 3: convergence

Assumming that all the letters were randomly generated, and every letter of the alphabert as an equal chance of appearing, which result is the most likely to appear? (all contain 11 letters)

The answer is that all cases are equally likely to appear.

However, which do you recognise as most likely to be a deliberate design?

The answer is case 3. While it may be true that all outcomes are equally likely, it is possible to differentiate one as likely to be designed while the others as not. Information can be encrypted, or written in a different language, however, it is still information. (whether the pattern is hidden or obvious)

We do know however, that it is possible to come up with patterns that look designed by chance. For example, clouds in the sky might look like a rabbit with correct cloud conditions and enough imagination. However, when a pattern gets more and more complex while still retaining it's specificity (meaning), it becomes more and more likely that an intelligent agent was the cause. GK Chesterton expressed it as such:

"One elephant having a trunk was odd: all elephants having trunks looked like a plot" - GK Chesterton

I major in civil engineering. Not doing too well right now, exams coming also so I won't be very active. Feel free to post on my guestbook tho ^^ God bless =)

Have a nice day ^^