Quote by RubyDrg0nMaybe so, I am just
writing this in the opinion of the world, freedom is only restricted to a
person's mind, in actual fact, nothing is binding us, however we want to be
intwined in the world...
so.. same as you say... why do he have to follow your ideal? i suggest this give
you no right to say that this is a free world in the sense you are trying to
tell me...
my free world is to know and know naught of consequences where death is chosen
by one with factors of coincidence following it... so the choice is yours, to
change or to continue having these bad images about you...
What makes you think you speak for the world? Am I not a part of it? I too am
part of the world you speak of, and your words hold no more weight than mine in
this sense.
If it is your ideal to know nothing, and to believe in nothing, and to be
purposely ignorant of any possibilities of life after death - then so be it. I
never did demand that others follow my ideals, unlike what you imply. I've
always said that with choice comes responsibility.
Quote by RubyDrg0n
And about the power words, knowledge is a powerful things, knowing something can
change your mind systems and how it works.
For example, if you are drinking in a restaurant having a chat with a friend and
someone sat beside you.
He is a muslim but wearing plain clothes, wearing no signs in anyway showing he
is a muslim...
1. if you do not know this, how would you feel?
2. if you do know this, how would you feel?
I don't know what you're implying, but I have nothing against Muslims.
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so Persocom01, knowledge binds us in certain ways...so i can say that you will
be RESTRICTED by the words, and the choice is yours to how to deal with it...
As to you being radical evangelical Christian or not, I don't have any
information regarding your behaviour except that you are very stubborn in your
ideas and do not like to be indifferent but in your own ways..so ciao, may you
be enlightened of how this world works
It is the freedom of a Christian not to be bound by what others think of us. I
don't need to be, and indeed shouldn't be bound by knowledge of what others
think of me. What prisoner, after being released from his cell, goes back to
it?
"Christ has freed us so that we may enjoy the benefits of freedom.
Therefore, be firm in this freedom, and don't become slaves again." -
Galatians 5:1
I, by my allegiance to Christ am a slave of no one and nothing of this world, be
it the law or knowledge or whatsoever fears you still possess. You who are of
the world and indeed "knows how the world works", a slave to sin and
death does not understand the power and freedom of Christianity.
"The standards of the Spirit, who gives life through Christ Jesus, have set
you free from the standards of sin and death." - Romans 8:2
Quote by RubyDrg0n
btw... better learn your religion properly, I don't want meaningless debates
It is written:
"Have you met a person who thinks he is wise? There is more hope for a fool
than for him." - Proverbs 26:12
From what you have said I can see that you obviously do not know enough about my
religion, yet have you set yourself up as an authority on it before. I have said
before and I will say again, if you think yourself wise, you indeed are a fool.
Hello i wanted to stop by and say i thought you latest thread was interesting.
And it had an interesting theory though i disagree with it, my compliments on
the idea.
Also i see you try to debate persecom1, don't, hes a radical evagelical
christian( no offense) so he literally belive that the human thumb is proof of
gods existance, so when debating him don't expext to get a logical or "
fair" argument. But again good thread(If God is smart.).
Nya~ ogenki desuka Darkness-kun? ^-^ I bet studying very hard ne?
Just dropping by to say hello! Hehee~ cos
I'm hunting for Someday's Dreamers picicies! Jya~ gambatte yo!
Sorry to post here but I came across this quote of yours and was
shocked:
Quote by RubyDrgOn
...i know you be surprised at wat i have say here but i am Christian...i think
it important to help ppl think of how they belief...i am a missionary for Christ
in Malaysia...most ppl don't know that...makes it
fun...
WHAT!? Are you kidding me? You best be careful friend if you are in fact a
Christian missionary because most, if not all, of your posts do not confirm
Christ - I believe that is a huge mistake since this world is fallen anyway -
doesn't need more help. If anything, it needs us to stand up and speak out.
Hi Rubydrag0n! I saw one of your posts asking if God was the creator who created
God, and who created that god, etc. That was something I didn't understand a few
years ago, too. The answer is fairly obvious.
1. God is so powerful that it created itself. This position is meaningless as
humans cannot conceive of it because it is illogical, thus stupid.
2. God has just existed forever. Sound logic, sort of.
3. God doesn't exist. Sound logic.
Now you might be disagreeing with me by now, but I could say that matter doesn't
exist because it would have had to been created. This is impossible, thus
something can exist for an infinite time. We honestly don't know enough to say
if matter has always existed or if God created matter, but the "God must
have a creator" idea is flawed. I hope this helps.
Quote by RubyDrg0nbut if you do so....
it will stop the progress of your religion as well....
To truly understand your religion is to understand its advantage and
disadvantage... so learn everything....good or bad... right or wrong about it...
that is how ppl should believe in their religion.... if any ppl have any
negative comments... think about it.... put some thoughts into it and understand
why.... go through all the basis of the religion and human thoughts (dont try to
use religion to answer everything coz it is only a moral thing)---> this part
is about overcoming it by yourself, not running to God without really overcoming
it...... only go ask God for help when you really needs it....
also one more thing... you should still be searching for the Eden of
thoughts....(Eden here is symbolic... but it sound nice...)... dont stop on your
religion but try others as well... its not about joining but about
understanding...
*reminder: dont use your religion as a guide for everything because it is for
morality only!
so when you truly understand all ... you can truly choose your believe and wat
you think is right....
if one finds something wrong with one's religion, should not one stop following
it? but i agree with how one should ponder and understand negative comments on
one's religion, the reasoning why the person said it and whether it is actually
true or not. i must say God is not there just to help you when you really need
it, at least not in Christianity. He wants a steady one-on-one relationship with
everyone. He is just like any other friend in that He wants to share everything
with us, not just pain and suffering but also adventures and joy.
do you mean by saying running to God without really overcoming, that whenever
someone helps you, you are not really doing anything? in that case, no one has
accomplished anything is the history of anything.
also, religion may be merely a moral thing, but Christianity is not merely a
religion. it is a way of life; it was meant to change a person completely,
everything from thoughts to words to actions.
"Eden of thoughts" does have a nice ring to it though
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Quote by RubyDrg0naraszun: can you pls
prove tat? pls dont disapprove me for no reasons... i have my own reasons to
write that up.... and it is not simply "just saying"....so
pls....:)
alexjohnc3: you seems very bias for your religion.... even if i am
"intelligent"(judge me whether i am) non-believer... i would believe
Buddhism more than Christianity.... i wouldnt "worship" a god even if
he/she/it created me, who cant even help us rite..(look at the world....)... if
he really wanna help us.... through Christianity.... we should all be born and
become Christians... but we are not.... why? coz "evil" is too
powerful for him to control properly?
sry for all artheist or non-believers or intellects out there... i use
"evil" just to argue in their language.....
just curious but what about Buddhism draws you?
ok, it is not that God cannot help us, it is because God chooses not it, not
because He is evil but because people learn much much more from difficult
experience than constant happiness. example: in general, when parents shelter
their children and give them whatever they want, the children become spoiled. if
God did that all His followers would be spoiled. God purposely allows Satan to
tempt us and test us, but only within the limits of our strength. if it is not,
He is just waiting for us to turn and ask Him and He will support us and help us
through the difficulties. also, the "evils" of the world give us all,
whether Christian or atheist or Buddhist or Muslim or whatever you are, to put
our kindness to the test. how willing are you to help someone if he or she is
infected with the most contagious disease? how willing are you to help someone
if he or she is a murderer? how willing are you to help someone if he or she is
a prostitute? how willing are you to help someone if he or she is the
manifestation, the embodiment, the epitome of what you hate the most? if one is
truely the follower of Christianity then one would do one's utmost best to help
that person.
sorry if i sound kind of mean, i am just sort of tired of hearing that same
argument over and over. my apologies.
What makes you think you speak for the world? Am I not a part of it? I too am part of the world you speak of, and your words hold no more weight than mine in this sense.
If it is your ideal to know nothing, and to believe in nothing, and to be purposely ignorant of any possibilities of life after death - then so be it. I never did demand that others follow my ideals, unlike what you imply. I've always said that with choice comes responsibility.
I don't know what you're implying, but I have nothing against Muslims.
It is the freedom of a Christian not to be bound by what others think of us. I don't need to be, and indeed shouldn't be bound by knowledge of what others think of me. What prisoner, after being released from his cell, goes back to it?
"Christ has freed us so that we may enjoy the benefits of freedom. Therefore, be firm in this freedom, and don't become slaves again." - Galatians 5:1
I, by my allegiance to Christ am a slave of no one and nothing of this world, be it the law or knowledge or whatsoever fears you still possess. You who are of the world and indeed "knows how the world works", a slave to sin and death does not understand the power and freedom of Christianity.
"The standards of the Spirit, who gives life through Christ Jesus, have set you free from the standards of sin and death." - Romans 8:2
It is written:
"Have you met a person who thinks he is wise? There is more hope for a fool than for him." - Proverbs 26:12
From what you have said I can see that you obviously do not know enough about my religion, yet have you set yourself up as an authority on it before. I have said before and I will say again, if you think yourself wise, you indeed are a fool.
Hello i wanted to stop by and say i thought you latest thread was interesting. And it had an interesting theory though i disagree with it, my compliments on the idea.
Also i see you try to debate persecom1, don't, hes a radical evagelical christian( no offense) so he literally belive that the human thumb is proof of gods existance, so when debating him don't expext to get a logical or " fair" argument. But again good thread(If God is smart.).
Shinsen89
Nya~ ogenki desuka Darkness-kun? ^-^ I bet studying very hard ne?
Hehee~ cos
I'm hunting for Someday's Dreamers picicies! Jya~ gambatte yo!
Just dropping by to say hello!
RubyDrgOn,
Sorry to post here but I came across this quote of yours and was shocked:
WHAT!? Are you kidding me? You best be careful friend if you are in fact a Christian missionary because most, if not all, of your posts do not confirm Christ - I believe that is a huge mistake since this world is fallen anyway - doesn't need more help. If anything, it needs us to stand up and speak out.
Hi Rubydrag0n! I saw one of your posts asking if God was the creator who created God, and who created that god, etc. That was something I didn't understand a few years ago, too. The answer is fairly obvious.
1. God is so powerful that it created itself. This position is meaningless as humans cannot conceive of it because it is illogical, thus stupid.
2. God has just existed forever. Sound logic, sort of.
3. God doesn't exist. Sound logic.
Now you might be disagreeing with me by now, but I could say that matter doesn't exist because it would have had to been created. This is impossible, thus something can exist for an infinite time. We honestly don't know enough to say if matter has always existed or if God created matter, but the "God must have a creator" idea is flawed. I hope this helps.
if one finds something wrong with one's religion, should not one stop following it? but i agree with how one should ponder and understand negative comments on one's religion, the reasoning why the person said it and whether it is actually true or not. i must say God is not there just to help you when you really need it, at least not in Christianity. He wants a steady one-on-one relationship with everyone. He is just like any other friend in that He wants to share everything with us, not just pain and suffering but also adventures and joy.
do you mean by saying running to God without really overcoming, that whenever someone helps you, you are not really doing anything? in that case, no one has accomplished anything is the history of anything.
also, religion may be merely a moral thing, but Christianity is not merely a religion. it is a way of life; it was meant to change a person completely, everything from thoughts to words to actions.
"Eden of thoughts" does have a nice ring to it though
merged: 02-28-2006 ~ 03:19am
just curious but what about Buddhism draws you?
ok, it is not that God cannot help us, it is because God chooses not it, not because He is evil but because people learn much much more from difficult experience than constant happiness. example: in general, when parents shelter their children and give them whatever they want, the children become spoiled. if God did that all His followers would be spoiled. God purposely allows Satan to tempt us and test us, but only within the limits of our strength. if it is not, He is just waiting for us to turn and ask Him and He will support us and help us through the difficulties. also, the "evils" of the world give us all, whether Christian or atheist or Buddhist or Muslim or whatever you are, to put our kindness to the test. how willing are you to help someone if he or she is infected with the most contagious disease? how willing are you to help someone if he or she is a murderer? how willing are you to help someone if he or she is a prostitute? how willing are you to help someone if he or she is the manifestation, the embodiment, the epitome of what you hate the most? if one is truely the follower of Christianity then one would do one's utmost best to help that person.
sorry if i sound kind of mean, i am just sort of tired of hearing that same argument over and over. my apologies.
Hi there!
I just want to say thanks for your comment on my thread!
Hope you will have a nice week!
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Thanks for your comment on my doujinshi~
Hai..since we didn't have much to do after PMR..so i thought i could draw or something in school
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