Quote by SulibresHey! I never realized
you were with child! Congratulations!
Eh? Did you post on the wrong GB page?
Unless... you mean me getting married and him being my first child... then yes.
Baby from my belly, no. I'd be the first one to know if I was pregnant.
Edit:
Perhaps you've read a recent post of mine about having kids? My friend in New
Mexico here on MT is soon expecting his first child... perhaps that's it?
Quote by SulibresHey! You're talking
normally now!
hahahahahahahaha!......IM SO HAPPY! my parents had to go to a doctors convention
and they wont be back till night!IM FREE FOR A HOLE DAY!i can write however i
want to!
The piliing evidence against God's existence, the brutality of most of God's
laws, and the brutal application of those laws.
Hey beyondmeausre,
Any sites for recommended reading on the topic?
Thanks
Which of them: the evidence against God's existence or the brutality of most of
God's laws and their subsequent brutal applcation?
Or both?
In any case, I'd recommend Christopher Hitchen's god is not great and Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion as a good start (if only because they're the
only ones I've read when it comes to atheism).
I am looking for both to be honest, and websites would certainly be
useful.
There are websites mentioned on the back of Dawkins' book. A particularly
interesting website is The-Brights.net (not sure of the spelling here), a
website that aims to rebrand us atheists with the name "Bright".
Methinks it is a fantastic move, and Dawkins and the philosopher Daniel Dennett
have signed up. Problem is, there are people who think of it whole enterprise as
too arrogant.
anyway, getting back to my own business, I know ur pretty busy, and probably got
a lot of work load, but, judging from the one liners ur writin to me ( and only
me ) i guess ur mad at me.
am sorry then for whatever it was i did...or still am doin...
(*tries not to laugh but fails*)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHA...A...B-B-BEAR?....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
AHAHAHA.........T-THAT ALL A-A-A-ABOUT?........HAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.............HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
merged: 06-16-2008 ~ 05:08pm
(*gulps and blushes*)i thought u were nice sulibres......but.....i guess i was
wrong!i dont do it for pity or attention!(*screams with teary eyes*)U DONT KNOW
ME! U DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME!......i-ill have u know u made me cry a lot
for saying that!....(*tears sart to flow down cheeks*)why?why did u say
that?what did....i ever....do to u....to deserve that untrue
comment?.......w-why did u-?......and im not lying or joking i WAS crying and im
crying right now!(*sreams while crying really loud*)YOU KNOW WHY DONT U JUST
TAKE A LOOK AT THE THREAD "WHATS URE GREATEST DREAM WHEN U WERE A
BOY/GIRL?" MAYBE THATLL EXPLAIN A LITTLE ABOUT ME!........you know
what....just forget it.....i should just kill myself!(*runs away
crying*)
Quote by Kimi-Shime-Chan
(*gulps and blushes*)i thought u were nice sulibres......but.....i guess i was
wrong!i dont do it for pity or attention!(*screams with teary eyes*)U DONT KNOW
ME! U DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME!......i-ill have u know u made me cry a lot
for saying that!....(*tears sart to flow down cheeks*)why?why did u say
that?what did....i ever....do to u....to deserve that untrue
comment?.......w-why did u-?......and im not lying or joking i WAS crying and im
crying right now!(*sreams while crying really loud*)YOU KNOW WHY DONT U JUST
TAKE A LOOK AT THE THREAD "WHATS URE GREATEST DREAM WHEN U WERE A
BOY/GIRL?" MAYBE THATLL EXPLAIN A LITTLE ABOUT ME!........you know
what....just forget it.....i should just kill myself!(*runs away
crying*)
You obviously can't take a joke can you. People prod fun of one another all the
time. And to be honest, I don't know why you are typing in this manner; typing
normally would help a lot of people to perceive you as a normal person as
opposed to someone deliberately doing it to gain
attention.
(*looks away*)if that was a joke,it was very mean.....but eitherway im sorry i
got like that.........screaming at u and everything....but i HAVE to talk like
that cause.....cause....well do u really want me to explain?
merged: 06-16-2008 ~ 06:33pm
Quote by SulibresVery well, I am willing
to listen to your reasons for speaking as such. To be honest, I thought you were
playing around as well; which is why I made the joke. No offense
intended.
strangely.....that makes me feel better......(*smiles weakly*)
merged: 06-16-2008 ~ 06:44pm
Quote by SulibresSooo....What's the
reason for typing like this?
uh....didnt u get the pm i sent u?if u did and didnt get it?heres the resume
-im shy in the real world with new people
-my therapist told me i have to write like i act
-my mom scares the hell out off me and she sometimes checks how i write(she isnt
here right now)
-so i have to write exactly how i would act in the real world or my mom pummels
me to the ground
(*weak voice*)(*looking at the ground*)do u get it?
Regarding the thread "On Unbelief" I didn't wish to provoke any
statements from you except priincess. I admit to being hostile, but only on the
grounds that she said things like this:
I rebutted her angrily because to me, what she was saying is that any non
believer does not understand goodness and whatever actions they have ever done
are completely useless and irrelevant.
In other words, she stated she was better than me. How would you feel if someone
told you that you are ignorant, stupid and any actions you have ever committed,
even righteous ones are irrelevant because they say so? They even go to the
extent in implying that you get irrationally angry and are a cheat and a liar to
your own parents.
I know you are Christian, and to be honest I find you one of the more reasonable
and intelligent ones at that, but perhaps you could do me a favour and explain
to priincess that atheists are not necessarily inhuman or evil.
Thank you,
Sulibres
I can understand your frustration after fully reading the posts. I am shocked
and I now see that she is getting out of hand with her posts. Not all Christians
believe that way and it makes me a little worried that she, meaning well... is
actually just offending others instead of trying to help them understand
Christianity. Honestly, I don't know what to say to her to make her understand.
BTW, I'd only replied to the topic because of your post... I
didn't think of it as any provocation. Your post was the only one I'd read
originally. I, myself, had not read the thread entirely and in my own way I was
just helping with some possible misinterpretations of the Bible. That's it. I
hope you did not think me rude.
I appreciate you talking to me directly about the subject and not being offended
(because that was never my intention to offend you or attack you or anyone else,
I just wanted to express an opinion and perhaps shed new light on possible
interpretations) with my reply to your post. I will try to post something again,
but it doesn't mean that she will agree, listen, nor understand. We all do what
we can to try to get others to see and believe the way that we, ourselves do...
rarely does it work how you plan it.
Some people take that way of thinking to the extreme and seem to drive people
away from how they believe my their lack of tact in their words.
Try to have a better day and feel free to send me another post.
I enjoy our chats here and throughout the forum, but I wish this one had been
sparked from a different/better situation.
Thanks for the reply. I just felt it would be better if I informed you of my
displeasure with priincess personally rather than hoping you would eventually
read it on the board.
It's attitudes and religious hypocrisy like that which drives me away from
religion: Because a religion is reflected in its followers. I do realize the
different sects and even churches of Christianity may preach different things;
so I'm not really sure what kind of church priincess goes to for that
matter.
Thanks for being reasonable, its just difficult for me now when everyone around
me presumes that I need "saving" or is some kind of lost
"sheep". The irony in my situation is that I'm always told by some
Christians how they, as a people are being persecuted (as stated in the bible)
and yet for some reason, just because I lack belief in a God (rare in my
country), I am frowned upon for it.
Then again, my lack of a belief in a god does not say the same for my belief in
the paranormal; absurd isn't it? A world without Gods or Devils but inhabited by
beings of the flesh and beings lacking flesh; both capable of malevolence and
benevolence. I feel like I'm living in Lovecraft's world without knowing
it.
Sulibres.
(sorry about the late reply)
^^ No worries. I'm just glad that you contacted directly. Its the best way and
fastest way to clear up a problem or disagreement. I'm sorry that negative
religious attitudes and hypocrisy have driven you from wanting anything to do
with religion. That's wrong and I wish people wouldn't do that to others...
telling them that they're going to hell, trying to scare them into believing or
force them, its not right. Not ever. One of the reasons why my little brother
doesn't believe in organized religion is because of what you'd stated. He abhors
it and believes that most of the major leaders of all religions are corrupt.
He's probably right, but I put my faith in God not men.
I think priincess means well, but she lacks tact in what she states. (I am not
and will not make excuses for others actions or words, btw.) Not everyone is
blessed with the talent of tactful speech.
Sometimes people get really rude to one another in those threads. People don't
even take into account how others might interpret what they write. I'm sure that
some don't care either. I've always been someone who tried to take everything
and everyone else into account before myself. Its the way I've always been and I
think its the right thing to do. ^^ I'm not always like that, but I really try
to be that way.
The paranormal. ^^ Good subject. I have
some friends who are Christians and yet do not believe in the paranormal. I
can't understand why they don't because the Lutheran church (and many other
Christian faiths) say the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed. In it, we
Lutherans state that, "We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of
heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible." It could be
anything besides Heaven and Hell... to me it can mean that there are things that
we cannot see, but they still exist. Perhaps dimensions, perhaps monsters (to
us), or angels ... good or bad...(I believe that we can and can't see them...
depending on if they want to be seen). I believe in many different types of
paranormal activity. I've had plenty of weird occurances happen to me throughout
my life (sounds, things I've seen/manifestations, coincidences, things that were
too creepy or perfect to happen randomly... etc.) Sometimes I wonder if
Lovecraft knew more about the unknown than we think...
Oh, I should note that I'm pretty open about my beliefs so I might be an oddball
compared to priincess or to many others who are of the Christian faith. Perhaps
I'm weird, but either way... I think everything happens for a reason, but we
still have some control over the situation and none over the outcome. ^^ (back
to the one thread about independence day and rantings of what religious people
do at the end of the world in movies)...I'm still going for a zombie invasion.
I'd rather be shooting shit I know how to kill... if it turns out to be aliens,
I'll be screwed... and somehow I'd be disappointed. Oh, the
zombies must be the ones from the original monster movies... not the ones that
run up to you (28 Days Later/Raccoon City's Resident Evil), those just aren't
the zombies I've grown to know and love. ...perhaps
the ones from the Evil Dead/Army of Darkness would be interesting too. At least
they'd make me laugh before I shot 'em with my boom stick.
Well I deleted my earlier post so that you get to see this one.
Hang one! you can't be 8 yrs old!
something's definitely not right!
BTW, i added you to my FL, but I guess such a move is not welcome! anyway, I
presume your busy schedule doesn't permit you to come visit Us here... eb\ven
though I hope It allows you some time in the , say , weekend perhaps?!
Quote by SulibresHey Alex, had to delete
my previous entry so you could see this one. I'm not so good at the moment so I
have not been online in a while.
How have things been with you? Life's been rather unpleasant on my side and I'd
rather leave it at that. The world's been getting more and more
"unstable" and I'm contemplating the possibilities of a post
apocalyptic world and whether I should join the rebels, communists or
fascists.
Sulibres.
That sucks, and life hasn't been so great for me either..
I don't think you'll have to worry about that anytime soon. :P
Quote by Sulibres"History is
written by the observer, propaganda by the victor."- Keeper Codex of
Truth
"In war, truth is the first casualty."- Aeschylus
"In peace, sons bury their fathers; in war, fathers bury their sons."-
Herodotus
"To those that flee come neither power nor glory."- Homer
"Bella Detesta Matribus" (War is the dread of mothers)-
Horace
"I am more afraid of our own mistakes than our enemies' designs"-
Pericles
"Only the dead have seen the end of war"- Plato
"If a man does not know where he is sailing, no wind is favourable." -
Seneca the Younger
"Quick decisions are unsafe decisions."- Sophocles
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the
chief element in courage." -Thucydides
"And for any man of you who comes through this battle mostly unharmed, you
shall be my sister, and there shall be free frocks and jollies for all time,
you'll see!"- A rather insane Roman General
sulibres
thanks for commenting on my thread =D
haha either way yr lucky ^^ theres no pain when you have your wisdom and if you
have a big mouth - you can eat more at one time hahaha!
m.i.a. ^^
Quote by SulibresI really enjoy the
music you have put up on your user page, I particularly enjoy haunting Gothic
music. Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad you like my music. I wish I could have songs for people to upload on my
page, perhaps at a later date I'll have a link or something. Thank you for
stopping by my page. Its always nice to have people drop by and say hello to me.
Have a wonderful day and feel free to stop by anytime.
merged: 03-29-2008 ~ 01:34am
Oh, update. I started to read some more H.P. Lovecraft. Interestingly wicked
stuff. I'll have to find more time online to read some, but its pretty spiffy
reading.
I noticed that you and a many others are still refuting Kingray's arguments, yet
it has all come to naught.
I only have to say that you cannot reason with the "mentally ill":
Christianity was built on the foundation of society's rejects and idiots so how
could one expect it to have intelligent answers to the problems of the world?
Wistfully,
Sulibres
Very true, not really worth debating with them is it. Quite
a waste of time.
Thanks for your input on my "Separation of Church and State"
thread.
Yes many religions are very imperialistic from the standpoint that they are
always seeking new converts but there interference/meddling in politics results
in the religions becoming twisted by power and the interests of a few people.
After all how would the three major religions be today if they had merely
supported the people instead of trying to gain power through the governments. I
think we would be alot better off that we are today if that had been the case.
(*giggles weakly*)hehehe....thats so cool....! i REALLY like it...(*a tad smile*)....(*gives big hug*)thank u,Sulibres....!
Eh? Did you post on the wrong GB page?
Unless... you mean me getting married and him being my first child... then yes.
Baby from my belly, no. I'd be the first one to know if I was pregnant.
Edit:
Perhaps you've read a recent post of mine about having kids? My friend in New Mexico here on MT is soon expecting his first child... perhaps that's it?
Dude!
You were online @ 10 pm My time?! 
I soo totally did NOT expect you to be! I was online earlier to talk to you thinking you won't be online later!
we are soo totally confused! lol well, from tomoro i'll b OL @ 10pm my time. So if u wanna talk u know when to find me. BTW, finished ur assignment?
and...when u plannin to add me? Next year? When I plan to change my ava, probably? Lol
Man am
lazy! 
vatican is right, its been 2 years now...
Sulibres!Sulibres!Sulibres!Sulibres!Sulibre(...)
Post Deleted your Majesty! *bow*
And Tell
your Toys "Hello lil ppl, nice to meet you.. 
"
from me please! 
And *looks down* Wah!
You sent the
same post to kimi-san as well?! 
Why ....
you... traitor! 
kidding!
see ya! *waves* Now, clean up all the feathers iv strewn! 
Cool!Tell them i say hello back
merged: 06-17-2008 ~ 08:21am
hahahahahahahaha!......IM SO HAPPY! my parents had to go to a doctors convention and they wont be back till night!IM FREE FOR A HOLE DAY!i can write however i want to!
Which of them: the evidence against God's existence or the brutality of most of God's laws and their subsequent brutal applcation?
Or both?
In any case, I'd recommend Christopher Hitchen's god is not great and Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion as a good start (if only because they're the only ones I've read when it comes to atheism).
merged: 06-17-2008 ~ 06:50am
There are websites mentioned on the back of Dawkins' book. A particularly interesting website is The-Brights.net (not sure of the spelling here), a website that aims to rebrand us atheists with the name "Bright". Methinks it is a fantastic move, and Dawkins and the philosopher Daniel Dennett have signed up. Problem is, there are people who think of it whole enterprise as too arrogant.
okay
i appreciate if u do the same
there are some really confused ppl out here...
anyway, getting back to my own business, I know ur pretty busy, and probably got a lot of work load, but, judging from the one liners ur writin to me ( and only me ) i guess ur mad at me.
am sorry then for whatever it was i did...or still am doin...
(*tries not to laugh but fails*)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHA...A...B-B-BEAR?....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
AHAHAHA.........T-THAT ALL A-A-A-ABOUT?........HAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.............HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
merged: 06-16-2008 ~ 05:08pm
(*gulps and blushes*)i thought u were nice sulibres......but.....i guess i was wrong!i dont do it for pity or attention!(*screams with teary eyes*)U DONT KNOW ME! U DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME!......i-ill have u know u made me cry a lot for saying that!....(*tears sart to flow down cheeks*)why?why did u say that?what did....i ever....do to u....to deserve that untrue comment?.......w-why did u-?......and im not lying or joking i WAS crying and im crying right now!(*sreams while crying really loud*)YOU KNOW WHY DONT U JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE THREAD "WHATS URE GREATEST DREAM WHEN U WERE A BOY/GIRL?" MAYBE THATLL EXPLAIN A LITTLE ABOUT ME!........you know what....just forget it.....i should just kill myself!(*runs away crying*)
merged: 06-16-2008 ~ 06:14pm
(*looks away*)if that was a joke,it was very mean.....but eitherway im sorry i got like that.........screaming at u and everything....but i HAVE to talk like that cause.....cause....well do u really want me to explain?
merged: 06-16-2008 ~ 06:33pm
strangely.....that makes me feel better......(*smiles weakly*)
merged: 06-16-2008 ~ 06:44pm
uh....didnt u get the pm i sent u?if u did and didnt get it?heres the resume
-im shy in the real world with new people
-my therapist told me i have to write like i act
-my mom scares the hell out off me and she sometimes checks how i write(she isnt here right now)
-so i have to write exactly how i would act in the real world or my mom pummels me to the ground
(*weak voice*)(*looking at the ground*)do u get it?
You mad at me?
I can understand your frustration after fully reading the posts. I am shocked and I now see that she is getting out of hand with her posts. Not all Christians believe that way and it makes me a little worried that she, meaning well... is actually just offending others instead of trying to help them understand Christianity. Honestly, I don't know what to say to her to make her understand. BTW, I'd only replied to the topic because of your post...
I
didn't think of it as any provocation. Your post was the only one I'd read
originally. I, myself, had not read the thread entirely and in my own way I was
just helping with some possible misinterpretations of the Bible. That's it. I
hope you did not think me rude. 
I appreciate you talking to me directly about the subject and not being offended (because that was never my intention to offend you or attack you or anyone else, I just wanted to express an opinion and perhaps shed new light on possible interpretations) with my reply to your post. I will try to post something again, but it doesn't mean that she will agree, listen, nor understand. We all do what we can to try to get others to see and believe the way that we, ourselves do... rarely does it work how you plan it.
Some people take that way of thinking to the extreme and seem to drive people
away from how they believe my their lack of tact in their words.
Try to have a better day and feel free to send me another post.
I enjoy our chats here and throughout the forum, but I wish this one had been sparked from a different/better situation.
yothsothgoth
merged: 06-09-2008 ~ 07:44pm
(sorry about the late reply)
^^ No worries. I'm just glad that you contacted directly. Its the best way and fastest way to clear up a problem or disagreement. I'm sorry that negative religious attitudes and hypocrisy have driven you from wanting anything to do with religion. That's wrong and I wish people wouldn't do that to others... telling them that they're going to hell, trying to scare them into believing or force them, its not right. Not ever. One of the reasons why my little brother doesn't believe in organized religion is because of what you'd stated. He abhors it and believes that most of the major leaders of all religions are corrupt. He's probably right, but I put my faith in God not men.
I think priincess means well, but she lacks tact in what she states. (I am not and will not make excuses for others actions or words, btw.) Not everyone is blessed with the talent of tactful speech.
Sometimes people get really rude to one another in those threads. People don't
even take into account how others might interpret what they write. I'm sure that
some don't care either. I've always been someone who tried to take everything
and everyone else into account before myself. Its the way I've always been and I
think its the right thing to do. ^^ I'm not always like that, but I really try
to be that way.
The paranormal. ^^ Good subject.
I have
some friends who are Christians and yet do not believe in the paranormal. I
can't understand why they don't because the Lutheran church (and many other
Christian faiths) say the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed. In it, we
Lutherans state that, "We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of
heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible." It could be
anything besides Heaven and Hell... to me it can mean that there are things that
we cannot see, but they still exist. Perhaps dimensions, perhaps monsters (to
us), or angels ... good or bad...(I believe that we can and can't see them...
depending on if they want to be seen). I believe in many different types of
paranormal activity. I've had plenty of weird occurances happen to me throughout
my life (sounds, things I've seen/manifestations, coincidences, things that were
too creepy or perfect to happen randomly... etc.) Sometimes I wonder if
Lovecraft knew more about the unknown than we think... 
Oh, I should note that I'm pretty open about my beliefs so I might be an oddball compared to priincess or to many others who are of the Christian faith. Perhaps I'm weird, but either way... I think everything happens for a reason, but we still have some control over the situation and none over the outcome. ^^ (back to the one thread about independence day and rantings of what religious people do at the end of the world in movies)...I'm still going for a zombie invasion. I'd rather be shooting shit I know how to kill... if it turns out to be aliens, I'll be screwed... and somehow I'd be disappointed.
Oh, the
zombies must be the ones from the original monster movies... not the ones that
run up to you (28 Days Later/Raccoon City's Resident Evil), those just aren't
the zombies I've grown to know and love. 
...perhaps
the ones from the Evil Dead/Army of Darkness would be interesting too. At least
they'd make me laugh before I shot 'em with my boom stick. 
...I'm so weird.
~yothsothgoth~
well you gave me your garfield Plushie?
Wow... that is just scary, lol.
Well I deleted my earlier post so that you get to see this one.
Hang one! you can't be 8 yrs old!
something's definitely not right!
BTW, i added you to my FL, but I guess such a move is not welcome!
anyway, I
presume your busy schedule doesn't permit you to come visit Us here... eb\ven
though I hope It allows you some time in the , say , weekend perhaps?! 
Well have a nice time, till we meet again!
Hey, hope you're still having fun here. :P
merged: 05-20-2008 ~ 09:24pm
That sucks, and life hasn't been so great for me either..
I don't think you'll have to worry about that anytime soon. :P
wow, you know a lot! thanks for posting ^_^
sulibres
thanks for commenting on my thread =D
haha either way yr lucky ^^ theres no pain when you have your wisdom and if you have a big mouth - you can eat more at one time hahaha!
m.i.a. ^^
I'm glad you like my music. I wish I could have songs for people to upload on my page, perhaps at a later date I'll have a link or something. Thank you for stopping by my page. Its always nice to have people drop by and say hello to me. Have a wonderful day and feel free to stop by anytime.
~yothsothgoth~
merged: 03-29-2008 ~ 01:34am
Oh, update. I started to read some more H.P. Lovecraft. Interestingly wicked stuff. I'll have to find more time online to read some, but its pretty spiffy reading.
Very true, not really worth debating with them is it. Quite a waste of time.
Thanks for your input on my "Separation of Church and State" thread.
Yes many religions are very imperialistic from the standpoint that they are always seeking new converts but there interference/meddling in politics results in the religions becoming twisted by power and the interests of a few people. After all how would the three major religions be today if they had merely supported the people instead of trying to gain power through the governments. I think we would be alot better off that we are today if that had been the case.
Long time no see..
How's your life? I haven't seen more poems from you.
@beyondmeasure: I think Sulibres just doesn't want anyone to know his real age. But he's young, I assures you.
beyondmeasure: Sulibres is actually much older than 8 (also older than me). I was just kidding around when I said he was really young.
May I add to that.
Young and wise. Heh.
I couldn't help but notice the brilliant replies and rebuttals against mireya92.
And - you're young. Pretty noticeable.
Or are you pretending to? (No offense.)