Quote by abul
hey kashikosa
as i saw, tre vector was made in photoshop, and the "storke path"
method is sure not a vector
and i know that photoshop is a raster program, but the vectors made in photoshop
can be easily moved to illustrator/corel/... photoshop is just more
"comfortable" for me
so its not a problem at all
and i dont speak in a know-it-all manner, i just think that those phrases are
useless and they dont change the point even though the comment becomes more
"kind"
and ur right, i also did use paths in the beggining, and yeah, i just developed
quickly and i dodnt realize that it must be hard to use shapes for others
darn, once again im the reason of both world wars
i didnt mean to put someone down or flame, i just wrote what i thought
I think MapleRose has already cleared out that EVERY traced art is considered a
vector on MT especially since either way we are submitting jpegs - which in
itself is raster graphics.
Quote by abul
i dodnt realize that it must be hard to use shapes for others
darn, once again im the reason of both world wars
i didnt mean to put someone down or flame, i just wrote what i thought
I hope now you understand that just because someone does something differently
doesn't necessarily mean they put less effort into it. In the future just try to
be less 'brutal'
[guote=abul]
i can just leave the group if any comment without those sweet words is
considered as putting someone down
Now you are just overreacting. I's not that I want you to leave the group it's
just that you were mean and I find it
really sad that you don't see that, especially 'cause I thought you were a
really nice guy. I still think you shouldn't have said 'u used the paths method
which isnt vectoring and using paths for the outlines is like the easiest thing
u can ever do
try shapes and then ull understand what does the hard vectoring mean' This is
the part I truly don't like. It insinuates that she didn't put any effort into
her work and that is downgrading her work
and not constructive criticism.
Quote by abul
and dont scare me with warnings please, if you really want to do so - go on
there's also marissa who wanted to ban me, so u can just disscuss it with her,
im sure u'll find a good reason to ban me ^^
And that is so immature of you to say something like that >.> The
moderators might make decisions not always seen as quite understood, but their
main reason for being here is to keep this community friendly and peaceful...
Surely you understand that
merged: 02-05-2008 ~ 01:36am
Quote by abul
come on kashikosa, if i were as mean as u think of me, i wouldnt have any
friends
and its your own opinion if u like/dont like something i said
its not nessecary for me to know it, u know what i mean
and u know, a lot of things depend on the facial expression, that u dont see
through the web
i mean, u read and u imagine that im like that
while im actually like that u
know what i mean
i dont know if it was mature/immature, i just meant that i dont like when people
say ''if u dont stop, i'll do so and so'' if i really deserved a warning, just
give it to me and ill try to not make that mistake anymore, u
know
I was in NO way judging you that you are
mean. What I meant was that your actions seemed to be mean (I still think that
you are a nice person ). I
understand you didn't want to hurt her feelings you just said what you simply
thought. In the future just try to take into account others' feeling just a
little bit (which doesn't mean you are to praise them even if the work is
flawed)^^
merged: 02-05-2008 ~ 02:58am
Quote by abul
lol ur still thinking of me as a nice person? wow
to be honest, im really nice, most of time, but im an Angry Man, so its really
easy to drive me angry
im glad u understood i didnt mean to hurt someone
yeah, i guess i just should use more of those "sweet words" that i
hate so much
im glad we resoluted the problem without becoming ennemies, and i also think of
u as a nice person [well, i always did ]
ja ^^
I know sometimes it's not easy putting things too sweet 'cause one gets fed up
with things, but it helps and you'll get used to rephrasing what you mean in no
time . Especially since I know you must hate being misunderstood like that...^^
I really am gld we didn't get into too much of a fight on this matter and I
would never become your enemy - that's just not in my character
i think we should stop our "fights"
i mean i dont EVER touch u first, and just try to be more tolerant to me
usually, if i dont like someone i just dont talk to him and live my life just
like if he/she didnt exist
so if u really do think im stupid and mean, just try to not pay much attention
to me, and i wont be that angry/nervous, so will be you ^^
The thing is, we're in a community to help each other. Not
in a community to ignore or kill each other. You gave an f-bomb to me, was that
a good thing that should be happened here? You dropped the worst comment I ever
saw, was that simply need to be ignored? Think twice before you post something
horrible, and also you're the one who
started the fight by stating as though I was the one who is wrong. Look into
your own mirror, don't be fooled by your amazingness because I don't notice them
anyway.
merged: 02-04-2008 ~ 09:56pm
Quote by abulanyway, its not my fault that i
dont mask my negativity under words like "id like to advise you" or
"its great but i think that..." if i see a negative side, i point it
and im not trying to make a "sweet thing" of it
and even if its the worst comment uve seen i ur life, its not adressed to you,
so u should have ignored it
really?
have i ever commented ur posts? or have i ever told u things like "ur
stupid" or "you live in a cave" or others stuffs u told me in
past and i just dont remember them
and u always drop phrases like "look into a mirror, dont be fooled by your
awesomeness because i dont notice it"
so who's starting the fights?
you said you dont care about me, and so do i
so lets just ignore each other and the world will get
better
I don't start the fight, I just pointed out what
should/shouldn't do as a member. Your comment sounded very bad, and that is not
good. You sounded like a total greatness, so perhaps I would rather go with that
kind of words to you as well. Just remember that if you ever don't like
"sweet words" to be phrased in your critiques or you're going to point
something ridiculously not-make-sense, do not comment. Cause it won't bring any
peace in our community.
Quote by abuland what do u think i had to
say when someone calls me stupid, sais that im living in a cage etc etc
or i should just go to malaysia and kick his but?
i dont think it really worths it
Come here and kick me. I'm
waiting. I don't mind either. After all, I did call you stupid.
Hey abul-kun! Sorry to wish you happy birthday after so long coz a few days back
then I was away for something and was unable to use my computer
Hope you're not angry about that
Quote by abulu cant say its hard to vector
her hair because u didnt even vector it
vector means a picture made of vector shapes
u used the paths method which isnt vectoring and using paths for the outlines is
like the easiest thing u can ever do
try shapes and then ull understand what does the hard vectoring mean
plus the paths dont give a depth to the lines
they are thin, but its not always good
lines are made to divide one part of the other one
in ur case, the lines are not even noticeable
and the colours need more contrast/saturation/depth
Giving
constructive criticism is fine. However, this is not constructive criticism; this can be considered a flame.
Besides, you're not even correct in your flame. In fact, using the paths method
with the pen tool would be considered more of a vector than using brushes,
erasing, and blurring (which I think you are guilty of doing). But even so, any
traced art is considered "vector" in MT. Don't assume what you think
is easy is easy for other people.
lol she gave it back though
its dead because i had a trojan virus in there
lol good luck with ur bookies
she gave it back? but you can always clean your computer from trojan virus...
but she gave it back cause she wanted to use it and she couldnt? O.o or maybe
cause she knew you wouldnt be able to use it? O.o
lol thanks I still have a long way to read
Quote by abul
violation and sex? no way, i dont like that kind of music so give me five sis
lol purging helps,
oh rofl i knew u were talking about the sola one
lol the melody may be ok, but the meaning of the song doesnt
yep! give me those five too!
sis? may I call you little bro?
oh, you knew? since you gave me the chii card...
PS: this kind of replying with quotes is kinda weird
merged: 02-04-2008 ~ 09:18am
lol, I forgot to give you the thanks card
Quote by abulu cant say its hard to vector
her hair because u didnt even vector it
vector means a picture made of vector shapes
u used the paths method which isnt vectoring and using paths for the outlines is
like the easiest thing u can ever do
try shapes and then ull understand what does the hard vectoring mean
plus the paths dont give a depth to the lines
they are thin, but its not always good
lines are made to divide one part of the other one
in ur case, the lines are not even noticeable
and the colours need more contrast/saturation/depth
Hey there abul, I have a few things I wanted to tell you:
As a fellow member and a vectorer:
First of all: one actually CAN use stroking a path as a vector method - After
all you can stroke paths in AdobeIllustrator which only creates vector graphics.
Second of all: Even though the shape layers are indeed a vector tool in PS,
Photoshop as such is used for raster
graphic. If you really want to be that strict to people, please use Illustrator
or Corel or whatever other program you own that is strictly for vector
graphics...
As the Admin of :
Although I do agree that stroking paths takes up less effort than ShapeLayering
you really were rather mean in your comment toward JCzala... I mean you did speak in a know-it-all manner while you
really could've rephrased your words to say something like 'personally I don't
like stroking, I advise you to try some ShapeLayers 'cause they will give more
depth to your vectors and improve them'. I do believe you didn't want to seem
mean but the output was exactly as if you were implying she posted an effortless
vector whatsoever...
She still is learning as we all are. Heck, back when I started I also stroked
paths, but I have learned and now I even use AI from time to time ^^
And please remember your first vectors like Chihiro or Ray of Light which to me
actually seem to be stroked (I can of course be wrong). Just because you
developed this quickly doesn't mean everybody else will at the same pace!
We at Vectory share our works to get constructive criticism and not to be put
down by other members, please remember this!
Take care~
Quote by abulim so tired of u little angry
man
just calm down, take a break and eat a cookie
then come back to MT and be kind to people
and stop thinking that u r the smartest person in the world because u truly are
not ^^
Are you referring to yourself? Cause all I know is
that the one who started to comment the vector with such incredible
"smartest" way is you. Don't
act like you are totally right with just one thought, you are not the one who did that vector or the one who
taught her. Perhaps it's true for you, the lines are easy in like 5 minutes to
do, but do you know how she feel when doing it? Do you know how she think about
her own artwork? And you criticised badly as though she didn't do anything. It's
her way of vectoring, and also others' too. Don't be selfish and try to act like
you're a master or the one who create vector in the first place. You are the one that should be kind to people,
don't point something that would make me laugh - because you simply don't know
me.
P.S: You're still stupid to think stroke isn't a vector, you must live in cave
or jungle I supposed. And I don't care if you're tired of me, because I simply
don't care of you.
sorry for the very very late birthday wish! but happy birthday!~ hahax..!~ sorry
did not make any cards demo!~ i will remember the next time!~ hope
you had a wonderful birthday!~
Quote by norine07yay!~ it's
komaki-chan!~~~~~ kawaii!~~~ hahax..!~ nice work on the background!~
=]
lorl
i thought her name is kotomi
thank you for the comm and fave ^^
merged: 02-03-2008 ~ 09:08pm
Quote by norine07sorry for the very very
late birthday wish! but happy birthday!~ hahax..!~ sorry did not make any cards
demo!~ i will remember the next time!~ hope
you had a wonderful birthday!~
lorl thank you very much ^^
dont worry about the card, its ok, u didnt know
yeah i had a good one >:D
opps my bad norine got mixed up lolx!~ edited it hahax..!
your most welcome for fave and comments!~ =]
hee hee!~ your welcome!~ =] ah!~ good for you!~ =]
your 16 now! hahax..! mines in like 0.0 4 days! hahax..!
happy sweet 16!~
Quote by abulu cant say its hard to vector
her hair because u didnt even vector it
vector means a picture made of vector shapes
u used the paths method which isnt vectoring and using paths for the outlines is
like the easiest thing u can ever do
try shapes and then ull understand what does the hard vectoring mean
plus the paths dont give a depth to the lines
they are thin, but its not always good
lines are made to divide one part of the other one
in ur case, the lines are not even noticeable
and the colours need more contrast/saturation/depth
*nod eagerly* I agree with you in 100%. I hate when ppl use "stroke
path" option and complain "whaaa!
this vector was soooooo hard!" they are just lazy morons (I even
rant on Kyou Kara Maoh! description on DA) some ppl do one vector in 9h. 9h took
me outline of Yuuri and chibis!
good outline is the most important part
of vector!
merged: 02-03-2008 ~ 06:20pm
Quote by abul
yays!
someone agrees with me >:D
100% agreed with what u say
well vectors dont take me that much, but still the outlines are the hardest part
I'm still n00b plus I love reading. it's like 10 minutes of reading some story
and 5 minutes of vectoring .
Quote by abulim submitting one wallpaper
this evening, and the outlines came out so thin that eve i dont believe theyre
shapes though i never use paths for outlines [oh well i did use paths
when i didnt knwo how to vector with shapes i was
so stupid]
nya! pleas tell me something more about shaper! you're using photoshop or
illustrator?
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo(...)
please dont tell me that you're adding the guy with brown hair & got a
really evil look on his face
called Kaname.........
I dont like him he is evil
Quote by abulscan needs some clearing work
and the extraction is a bit jaggy
though the painty job is nice ^^
lol, I can't do much about pixels, I blurred it a bit before, but people were
saying it was too blurry. *shrug*
I realised I should probably lower this monitor, I see the scan isn't so clean,
mah, I don't plan on vectoring anytime soon, I'm glad everyone is satisfied with
the background though, as most of the effort was there.
lol u didnt do anything
i just hope u didnt start vecgtorin it
3rd person? maybe u just choose popular scans from popular categories
yes i didnt do anything...
no...i'm glad i didnt,but that was my next vector,well not anymore
cant wait to see it!
maybe.or i am to lazy to do vectors...that could be that....hehhe
Quote by Sinever
though im sad at the same time, because i think that the VK wall im making for
you wont even measure up to urs
oh my day is already joyful! i already got 2 amazing gifts
ja ^^
you're making a VK wall for me
yay I cant wait to see it
thats good to hear
take care
Quote by abulOMFFFFFFFG!
its just unbeliavable!
my presents are the best! >:D
dont worry, chii is just too gorgeous!
everything's just amazing! vectoring is awesome and the painty-ness is sure
great =D
darn, i could write much longer but i have to go
thank you soooooooooooooooo much nee-saaaan!
PS who told u i love textures?
Oh, I'm really glad you like it abul-kun It's
not what I wanted it to be but I'm glad I at least did something.
I know, I've seen the gifts you've gotten, pretty nice
Have a wonderful birthday!
oh thats sad T.T
though its ok
and i think i won tbe active for a while because my mother ook away my computer
[laptop] because of my bad notes and i have to use a family computer secretly
=(
oh yeah sure, they do download them from internet ^^
and actually i do so too if i didnt read the book though
its rare
wut?!? idk either
shame? i guess its just sad but i dont think its a shame because the person got
under someone's influence is not reallty guilty....
sad? mmm... I would say it`s frustrating
your mom took away your computer? wow, my mom doesnt do that, she just locks the
door where the computers are but we
can always get the key family
computer? wow, that`s sad, having to use the pc secretly... good luck! I am sure
you will get to find a way to recover your computer...
books... I am reading one I have longed to read for a long time... and then I
have to finish the other 5 that I bought and havent read O.o I usually dont
download resumes for internet, sometimes the book is really good and the resume
makes you think it`s a trash...
wow, didnt think of that that way... guess I will have to re start my mind
again, it`s way to disorganized...
oh my goodness, thank god theres no thing slike that in my country ir id be in
jaikl already [id kill all the little freakers with that thing, i hate kids 6-13
and i always want to kill them and if they were wearing that naruto thing id
certainly kill them ]
raggae? u mean like bob marley or itsa different thing?
i love music
mess atnotifications?
klol good luck with getting rid of them
merged: 01-27-2008 ~ 01:25am
Quote by auel1124I like the wall, but
someway it looks weird, dont know if it`s the coloring or the outlines... but
nice wall anyway
lol weird?
common, its good
oh btw
wow, really? then lucky those children
but you know, there are some really lovable children out there so
no need to kill them
mmm... it seems it comes from puerto rico, dont know... the music is just about
violence and sex...
yep, me too, but reggaeton makes me freak out!
lol, yeah, and can you believe I still have a mess at my notifications?
XD not the chii wall, the sola one... somehow looks weird... and the chii one
looks nice enough for me to fave it
PS: happy birthday! I still have a mess at my projects, so your present will
take a time, nowadays I have to work all day long so I dont have time to
vector...
I think MapleRose has already cleared out that EVERY traced art is considered a vector on MT especially since either way we are submitting jpegs - which in itself is raster graphics.
I hope now you understand that just because someone does something differently doesn't necessarily mean they put less effort into it. In the future just try to be less 'brutal'
[guote=abul]
i can just leave the group if any comment without those sweet words is considered as putting someone down
Now you are just overreacting. I's not that I want you to leave the group it's just that you were mean and I find it really sad that you don't see that, especially 'cause I thought you were a really nice guy. I still think you shouldn't have said 'u used the paths method which isnt vectoring and using paths for the outlines is like the easiest thing u can ever do
try shapes and then ull understand what does the hard vectoring mean' This is the part I truly don't like. It insinuates that she didn't put any effort into her work and that is downgrading her work and not constructive criticism.
And that is so immature of you to say something like that >.> The moderators might make decisions not always seen as quite understood, but their main reason for being here is to keep this community friendly and peaceful... Surely you understand that
merged: 02-05-2008 ~ 01:36am
I was in NO way judging you that you are mean. What I meant was that your actions seemed to be mean (I still think that you are a nice person
). I
understand you didn't want to hurt her feelings you just said what you simply
thought. In the future just try to take into account others' feeling just a
little bit (which doesn't mean you are to praise them even if the work is
flawed)^^
merged: 02-05-2008 ~ 02:58am
I know sometimes it's not easy putting things too sweet 'cause one gets fed up with things, but it helps and you'll get used to rephrasing what you mean in no time
I really am gld we didn't get into too much of a fight on this matter and I would never become your enemy - that's just not in my character
The thing is, we're in a community to help each other. Not in a community to ignore or kill each other. You gave an f-bomb to me, was that a good thing that should be happened here? You dropped the worst comment I ever saw, was that simply need to be ignored? Think twice before you post something horrible, and also you're the one who started the fight by stating as though I was the one who is wrong. Look into your own mirror, don't be fooled by your amazingness because I don't notice them anyway.
merged: 02-04-2008 ~ 09:56pm
I don't start the fight, I just pointed out what should/shouldn't do as a member. Your comment sounded very bad, and that is not good. You sounded like a total greatness, so perhaps I would rather go with that kind of words to you as well. Just remember that if you ever don't like "sweet words" to be phrased in your critiques or you're going to point something ridiculously not-make-sense, do not comment. Cause it won't bring any peace in our community.
Come here and kick me. I'm waiting. I don't mind either. After all, I did call you stupid.
Hey abul-kun! Sorry to wish you happy birthday after so long coz a few days back then I was away for something and was unable to use my computer
Hope you're not angry about that 
Giving constructive criticism is fine. However, this is not constructive criticism; this can be considered a flame. Besides, you're not even correct in your flame. In fact, using the paths method with the pen tool would be considered more of a vector than using brushes, erasing, and blurring (which I think you are guilty of doing). But even so, any traced art is considered "vector" in MT. Don't assume what you think is easy is easy for other people.
If you don't stop being a troll, you will earn yourself a lovely official warning
yep, surely true, I may quote it for my next vector for you!
sorry I
am still late, I almost finish the outlines 
she gave it back? but you can always clean your computer from trojan virus... but she gave it back cause she wanted to use it and she couldnt? O.o or maybe cause she knew you wouldnt be able to use it? O.o
lol thanks
I still have a long way to read 
lol the melody may be ok, but the meaning of the song doesnt
yep! give me those five too!
sis? may I call you little bro?
oh, you knew? since you gave me the chii card...
PS: this kind of replying with quotes is kinda weird
merged: 02-04-2008 ~ 09:18am
lol, I forgot to give you the thanks card
Hey there abul, I have a few things I wanted to tell you:
:
As a fellow member and a vectorer:
First of all: one actually CAN use stroking a path as a vector method - After all you can stroke paths in AdobeIllustrator which only creates vector graphics.
Second of all: Even though the shape layers are indeed a vector tool in PS, Photoshop as such is used for raster graphic. If you really want to be that strict to people, please use Illustrator or Corel or whatever other program you own that is strictly for vector graphics...
As the Admin of
Although I do agree that stroking paths takes up less effort than ShapeLayering you really were rather mean in your comment toward JCzala... I mean you did speak in a know-it-all manner while you really could've rephrased your words to say something like 'personally I don't like stroking, I advise you to try some ShapeLayers 'cause they will give more depth to your vectors and improve them'. I do believe you didn't want to seem mean but the output was exactly as if you were implying she posted an effortless vector whatsoever...
She still is learning as we all are. Heck, back when I started I also stroked paths, but I have learned and now I even use AI from time to time ^^
And please remember your first vectors like Chihiro or Ray of Light which to me actually seem to be stroked (I can of course be wrong). Just because you developed this quickly doesn't mean everybody else will at the same pace!
We at Vectory share our works to get constructive criticism and not to be put down by other members, please remember this!
Take care~
Are you referring to yourself? Cause all I know is that the one who started to comment the vector with such incredible "smartest" way is you. Don't act like you are totally right with just one thought, you are not the one who did that vector or the one who taught her. Perhaps it's true for you, the lines are easy in like 5 minutes to do, but do you know how she feel when doing it? Do you know how she think about her own artwork? And you criticised badly as though she didn't do anything. It's her way of vectoring, and also others' too. Don't be selfish and try to act like you're a master or the one who create vector in the first place. You are the one that should be kind to people, don't point something that would make me laugh - because you simply don't know me.
P.S: You're still stupid to think stroke isn't a vector, you must live in cave or jungle I supposed. And I don't care if you're tired of me, because I simply don't care of you.
sorry for the very very late birthday wish! but happy birthday!~ hahax..!~ sorry did not make any cards demo!~ i will remember the next time!~
hope
you had a wonderful birthday!~
merged: 02-03-2008 ~ 09:21pm
opps my bad norine got mixed up lolx!~ edited it hahax..!
your most welcome for fave and comments!~ =]
hee hee!~ your welcome!~ =] ah!~ good for you!~ =]
your 16 now! hahax..! mines in like 0.0 4 days! hahax..!
happy sweet 16!~
*nod eagerly* I agree with you in 100%. I hate when ppl use "stroke path" option and complain "whaaa! this vector was soooooo hard!" they are just lazy morons (I even rant on Kyou Kara Maoh! description on DA) some ppl do one vector in 9h. 9h took me outline of Yuuri and chibis!
good outline is the most important part of vector!
merged: 02-03-2008 ~ 06:20pm
I'm still n00b plus I love reading. it's like 10 minutes of reading some story and 5 minutes of vectoring
.
nya! pleas tell me something more about shaper! you're using photoshop or illustrator?
oh man I cant wait to see it
say you have to add Zero "the guy with the white & gray hair" he is my man & I love him soooooooo much
merged: 02-03-2008 ~ 01:08am
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo(...)
called Kaname.........
please dont tell me that you're adding the guy with brown hair & got a really evil look on his face
I dont like him he is evil
lol, I can't do much about pixels, I blurred it a bit before, but people were saying it was too blurry. *shrug*
I realised I should probably lower this monitor, I see the scan isn't so clean, mah, I don't plan on vectoring anytime soon, I'm glad everyone is satisfied with the background though, as most of the effort was there.
Thank you for the comment!
My Newest Vector-Wall: The Final Judgement
Wow, I didn't know that you hated Animepaper too. =o Yes, I do too so high five! =D
Im more than happy
good luck little one
Happy birthday abul-san!
Here's your late present:
yes i didnt do anything...
no...i'm glad i didnt,but that was my next vector,well not anymore
cant wait to see it!
maybe.or i am to lazy to do vectors...that could be that....hehhe
Whoa, almost missed your bd
-
because of the impending exams my life's been chaos 
So, happy belated birthday
Some truly stunning present you got there
thanks for the fav, abul-didi (that's chinese for little bro btw)
yeah, well, I'm a white-washed asian american. xD but I look and speak it, so lol.
and life is good. I have lots of school work, but I'm getting better at managing it all.
Oh, I'm really glad you like it abul-kun
It's
not what I wanted it to be but I'm glad I at least did something. 
I know, I've seen the gifts you've gotten, pretty nice
Have a wonderful birthday!
Seems it's your birthday, today? Happy Birthday abul! ^_^
And lucky you, I see you've got some gorgeous walls as presents, too.
wow, such a nice comment... I should quote it every time
"laziness kills"
sad? mmm... I would say it`s frustrating
but we
can always get the key 
family
computer? wow, that`s sad, having to use the pc secretly... good luck! I am sure
you will get to find a way to recover your computer...
your mom took away your computer? wow, my mom doesnt do that, she just locks the door where the computers are
books... I am reading one I have longed to read for a long time... and then I have to finish the other 5 that I bought and havent read O.o I usually dont download resumes for internet, sometimes the book is really good and the resume makes you think it`s a trash...
wow, didnt think of that that way... guess I will have to re start my mind again, it`s way to disorganized...
wow, really? then lucky those children
so
no need to kill them 
but you know, there are some really lovable children out there
mmm... it seems it comes from puerto rico, dont know... the music is just about violence and sex...
yep, me too, but reggaeton makes me freak out!
lol, yeah, and can you believe I still have a mess at my notifications?
XD not the chii wall, the sola one... somehow looks weird... and the chii one looks nice enough for me to fave it
PS: happy birthday! I still have a mess at my projects, so your present will take a time, nowadays I have to work all day long so I dont have time to vector...
Happy birthday abul-kun
My Newest Vector-Wall: Stained Glass
Happy Birthday =D Hope you have a good one ^_^